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Keith Marvin - RE: Berkebile, 234 Bethel Road
From: Caleb Thornhill <bct@freese.com>
To: Jim Hanke <Jim@haroldleidner.com>
Date: 7/2/2010 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: Berkebile, 234 Bethel Road
CC:Harold Leidner <harold@haroldleidner.com>, Phil Berkebile <philberkebile@verizon.net>,
Keith Marvin <kmarvin@coppelltx.gov>
Jim,
Thanks for the cadd file.
We are revising the retaining wall layout to match your driveway grading plan. The wall will not be 2 feet taller than
the back of curb. Once the limits are revised I will send you an updated plan sheet.
Call me if you have any questions.
B. Caleb Thornhill, P.E.
Freese & Nichols, Inc.
214-217-2282
From: Jim Hanke [mailto:Jim@haroldleidner.com]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:21 AM
To: Caleb Thornhill
Cc: Harold Leidner; Phil Berkebile; Keith Marvin
Subject: Berkebile, 234 Bethel Road
Caleb,
Attached is our cadd base for the current alignment of Berkebile's driveway. I delineated the proposed contours as
reflected on my driveway profile. There is some confusion between the contours on my base and the road way
plans so I did my best the estimate the tie to existing. Is there any reason why we can't drag them out and let the
wall slice into it and reduce in height as it approaches Berkebile's drive as shown?
Also, I contact Keith regarding the wall height. Your plan shows a height of 498.14' and your street elevation at the
driveway is 495.76'. Why is the wall 2 foot taller? Keith mentioned a rail on top of the wall. Does this go above
that wall elevation? He said he will get with you to answer that question. I will need an image of that rail for Mr.
Berkebile's review.
Many thanks,
Jim Hanke
Harold Leidner Company - Landscape Architects
1601 Surveyor Boulevard
Carrollton, Texas 75006
phone: 972.418.5244 ext. 106
fax: 972.416.2534
www.haroldleidner.com
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Keith Marvin - Berkebile, 234 Bethel Road
From: "Jim Hanke" <Jim(�haroldleidner.com>
To: "Keith Marvin" <kmarvingcoppelltx.gov >, "Phil Berkebile"
<philberkebile (averizon. net>
Date: 7/2/2010 5:26 PM
Subject: Berkebile, 234 Bethel Road
CC: "Harold Leidner" <haroldgharoldleidner.com >, "Caleb Thornhill" <bctgfreese.com >,
"Brad Watson" <bbwgfreese.com>
Attachments: 100702 Berkebile 3d Bethel Rd Wall (City, P B).pdf
Keith,
There are a couple things I would like to discuss with you when we come back from the holiday next week. At
this time we have not had a chance to discuss any of these items nor have I had a chance to run them by Phil so I
am just talking conceptually when addressing these items.
My current understanding of the retaining wall is as follows:
• Retaining wall will have a guard rail on top that matches bridge. Details provided by you. The bridge
has two heights of railings, I'm assuming 42" at this time, but need confirmation. Also, I don't how this
height relates to the top of wall elevation.
• Rail will not step, but will slope with street
• Wall railing will end at the west side of the Berkebile driveway and is to have a Txdot std. curved
guardrail at end to provide crash protection to end of wall.
I've attached two 3d images that delineate my proposed concept and would like feedback as to feasiblity. I
would like to see a column terminate the railing. And this will allow the stone veneer to terminate into
something. Several years ago a project I work on in Austin had a column terminating at a bridge railing similar
to this and a Txdot std. curved guard rail was required. After some negotiation, Txdot allowed a curved sloping
wall similar to shown on exhibit in place of the curved guard rail. Can this be a consideration in this situation?
This is the Berkebile's front door and a Txdot galvanized curved guard rail that caps off everyone's investment in
trying to make the wall railing look nice can't be considered desirable.
Please let me know your thoughts.
Many thanks,
Jim Hanke
Harold Leidner Company - Landscape Architects
1601 Surveyor Boulevard
Carrollton, Texas 75006
phone: 972.418.5244 ext. 106
fax: 972.416.2534
www.haroldleidner.com
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Keith Marvin - Berkebile, 234 Bethel Road
From: "Jim Hanke" <Jim(�haroldleidner.com>
To: "Keith Marvin" <kmarvin(�'.&oppelltx.gov>
Date: 7/2/2010 1:25 PM
Subject: Berkebile, 234 Bethel Road
CC: "Harold Leidner" <haroldgharoldleidner.com >, "Phil Berkebile"
<philberkebilegverizon.net >, "Caleb Thornhill" <bctgfreese.com>
Kevin,
I followed up with our mason and he feels comfortable with the 6" ledge because he can get the veneer in a 4 to
S inch thickness. Also, because of the stone type it's easier for him to install his own masonry ties. You will only
need to confirm the wall structure to handle the material. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to
contact us.
Many thanks,
Jim Hanke
Harold Leidner Company - Landscape Architects
1601 Surveyor Boulevard
Carrollton, Texas 75006
phone: 680 - 469 -2808
www.haroldleidner.com
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Keith Marvin - Berkebile, 234 Bethel Road
From: "Jim Hanke" <Jim(�haroldleidner.com>
To: "Caleb Thornhill" <bct(� free se. com>
Date: 7/2/2010 10:23 AM
Subject: Berkebile, 234 Bethel Road
CC: "Harold Leidner" <haroldgharoldleidner.com >, "Phil Berkebile"
<philberkebilegverizon.net >, "Keith Marvin" <kmarvingcoppelltx.gov>
Attachments: 100702 Berkebile (Caleb F N).dwg
Caleb,
Attached is our cadd base for the current alignment of Berkebile's driveway. I delineated the proposed contours
as reflected on my driveway profile. There is some confusion between the contours on my base and the road
way plans so I did my best the estimate the tie to existing. Is there any reason why we can't drag them out and
let the wall slice into it and reduce in height as it approaches Berkebile's drive as shown?
Also, I contact Keith regarding the wall height. Your plan shows a height of 498.14' and your street elevation at
the driveway is 495.76'. Why is the wall 2 foot taller? Keith mentioned a rail on top of the wall. Does this go
above that wall elevation? He said he will get with you to answer that question. I will need an image of that rail
for Mr. Berkebile's review.
Many thanks,
Jim Hanke
Harold Leidner Company - Landscape Architects
1601 Surveyor Boulevard
Carrollton, Texas 75006
phone: 972.418.5244 ext. 106
fax: 972.416.2534
www.haroldleidner.com
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