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(9/7/2010) Keith Marvin - Re: Hike & Bike and/or SidewalkPage 1
From: Keith Marvin
To:Tanner, Michael
CC:Elias, John
Date: 12/3/2009 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: Hike & Bike and/or Sidewalk
Mr. Tanner,
The City of Coppell currently has a project in the design phase to "infill" the missing sidewalk sections along Denton Tap
from SH 121 to Belt Line Road. This will include the section between Meadowcreek and the bridge.
We also have Bethel Road under design, which will include sidewalk from Denton Tap to Freeport Parkway. This will include
a signalized, ADA compliant, pedestrian crossing of Denton Tap at Bethel Road.
I have reviewed the sketches you sent to John Elias concerning utilizing the trail section under the bridge over Grapevine
Creek to cross Denton Tap. We have only 5 feet of city owned right of way on the west side of the bridge. There is not
sufficient room to construct an ADA compliant trail within a 5 foot area in addition to the necessary retaining walls and
grading. Considering the space constraints, and the ADA complaint signalized crossing that is to be built 350 feet south of
this location, I do not believe we will pursue this.
If you wish to discuss this further, please feel free to call me.
Keith Marvin, P.E.
Project Engineer
(972) 304-3681
>>> John Elias 12/3/2009 7:57 AM >>>
Mr. Tanner,
I am the contact for the Hike & Bike Trails. Keith Marvin is the contact in Engineering for the sidewalks kmarvin@ci.coppell.tx.us
Thank You
John Elias
Park Operations Manager
City of Coppell
>>> Michael Tanner <miketanner@dfwrealestate.ws> 12/3/2009 7:41 AM >>>
Will you forward to me the conact information for the people in charge
of.......
1, sidewalks
2. Hike & bike trails?
Thank you.
Mike Tanner
214 533-6947
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2009, at 7:02 AM, "John Elias" <jelias@ci.coppell.tx.us>
wrote:
> Mr. Tanner,
> I spoke with our Engineering Department regarding the sidewalk
> concerns as well as the underpass. At this point they have no plans
> to connect a sidewalk to the underpass which you referred to under
> Denton Tap Road. They do have plans to repair and extend the
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> sidewalks along Denton Tap Road. I have forwarded all of your
> emails to the Engineering Department for them to evaluate and
> consider the possibility of constructing in the future.
>
> Thank You
> John Elias
> Park Operations Manager
> City of Coppell
>
>>>> "Mike Tanner" <miketanner@dfwrealestate.ws> 12/1/2009 11:52 AM >>>
> Mr. Elias
>
>
>
> I've wondered for a good while if the current Planning and
> Engineering folks
> at the city are aware that there exist a partial hike & bike and/or
> sidewalk
> underpass going under Denton Tap under the south side of the Denton
> Tap
> bridge which is just north of Bethel Rd. The underpass is similar
> to the
> existing hike & bike underpass which connects Andy Brown Park West
> and Andy
> Brown Park Central. It is already constructed and even has a rail
> in place.
> It's just not connected to any sidewalk or trail. It looks clear
> that a
> path was planned but it just never got done.
>
>
>
> It would be a great asset to the city of this underpass was
> connected to the
> Denton Tap sidewalks thus allowing people from Creekview, Northlake
> Woodlands or other points on the east side of Denton Tap to travel to
> Grapevine Springs Park, the new Community Center, the Farmers Market
> and old
> downtown without crossing the busy and dangerous Denton Tap Rd. Of
> course
> this would also allow folks on the West side to cross under to the
> east
> side.
>
>
>
> It would not take much land. Maybe 5 to 8 feet which is there. You
> could
> run a new sidewalk trail parallel to the existing sidewalk but
> sloping down
> until it reaches the grade of the existing underpass at which point
> it would
> make a right angle turn and connect to the underpass. You would
> need to add
> a retaining walls between the existing sidewalks and the new downward
> sloping sidewalks on each side of Denton Tap with a hand rail on top
> of the
> retaining walls and next to the existing sidewalk.
>
>
>
> Again this would be a great asset to Coppell, providing an underpass
> at the
> south end of the city's residential development to complement the
> existing
> underpass at the north end of the city's residential development.
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>
>
>
> Another item that needs to be addressed is that the existing
> sidewalk on the
> east side of Denton Tap heading north from Bethel Rd discontinues
> and drops
> off dangerously just before it gets to Meadow Creek Rd. This make
> it very
> dangerous for anyone riding a bike or pushing a stroller at that point
> (especially children on smaller bikes).
>
>
>
> I live at 200 E Bethel and would be happy to meet with anyone to
> look at the
> underpass.
>
>
>
> Mike Tanner
>
> Progressive Realty Advisors
>
> 214 533-6947
>
>
>
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