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(7/8/2011) George Marshall - Re: Fw: Southwestern UpdatePage 1
From:
Ken Griffin
To:
George Marshall
Date:
6/7/2011 1:12 PM
Subject:
Re: Fw: Southwestern Update
Don't contact Kent. Just make sure all signage is up and correct. How is the project going? I can't get the
camera to come up on my computer.
-----Original Message-----
From: George Marshall
To: Ken Griffin <KGRIFFIN@coppelltx.gov>
Sent: 6/7/2011 1:10:44 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Southwestern Update
Rick has already communicated to the contractor that they need to place a type III, as shown on the plans,
just east of the intersection of Southwestern & Coppell Road. There are sufficient detour & Road Closed
No Thru Traffic signs in place for motorists to know they are heading the wrong direction they are just
choosing not to follow them. As it is, I think the signage and construction so far has been much better than
last year. I have passed this email (printout) along to Rick.
Would you like for me to contact Mr. Moore?
Thank You, George
George Marshall, PE
City of Coppell
Engineering
972-304-3562
>>> Ken Griffin 6/7/2011 12:46 PM >>>
(7/8/2011) George Marshall - Fw: Southwestern UpdatePage 1
From:
Clay Phillips
To:
Ken Griffin
Date:
6/7/2011 12:41 PM
Subject:
Fw: Southwestern Update
Attachments:
Southwestern Update
See Kent's comments below. I know you had already mentioned you had the same concern. Have we
signed as good as possible? Thanks!
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George Marshall - Southwestern Update
From: "kmoore" <kent.moore3@verizon.net>
To: "Clay Phillips" <cphillips@ci.coppell.tx.us>
Date: 6/7/2011 12:05 PM
Subject: Southwestern Update
Clay:
Thanks for getting the bridge grass cut. Looks great!
Some feedback for you on the progress of the detour on SW.
I spoke with two motorists as they stopped going eastbound and found themselves lost at the road leading to Dairy
Queen. Both were very sincere in their remarks - they were lost. Each said the same thing to me, Which way do we go?"
I think we can agree they should not be asking that question. The object being that we need to communicate through
signage so they know where the detour is. After I spoke to those two, they turned around and went back the other way --
but other vehicles proceeded to go through the Dairy Queen parking lot to access Southwestern. I realize this is just the
first day, but in time I think enforcement will occur, and that $250 fine is steep. Neither of us wants to fine people who
otherwise are making a fair and honest attempt to navigate leagally.
I have tried to think of some options.
1. The easiest way is to widen and repave that one way entrance so it can temporarily accomodate two way traffic. I'll
assume this isn't the best logistical solution.
2. The solution seems to include additional signage that includes two pieces of info. a. This not the correct way to go,
and b. which way should they go.
3. It seems difficult for trucks to make a u-turn once they have commited by turning left at the detour sign onto Bullock(?).
There seems to be enough room in the roadway for a u-turn jsut before the road barrier, but once they turn, they are
commited. I do not know what 18 wheelers will do!!! That is going to be a nightmare.
4. A sign that says, "NO ACCESS TO BELTLINE. MAKE U-TURN. FOLLOW DETOUR SIGNS." communicates the
message. Then on the return route westward (right after they turn around), another sign would be written keeping in mind
that people who just did a u-turn will be seeking immediate aid in learning which way to go. Perhaps "FOLLOW DETOUR
SIGNS AHEAD" communciates the message adequately.
5. It might also be a good idea to put an officer out there now to redirect traffic -- PRIMARILY though to gather nformation
about motorist behavior and to get real feedback to you.
Thanks again for getting the grass cut.
Kent
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