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(9/26/2011) Keith Marvin - RE: Excavation Qty for Coppell Road SouthPage 1
From:
"Marty Murphy" <Martym@JRJPaving.com>
To:
"Keith Marvin" <kmarvin@coppelltx.gov>
CC:
"James Scott" <Jamess@JRJPaving.com>
Date:
2/12/2010 8:34 AM
Subject:
RE: Excavation Qty for Coppell Road South
Will do thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Marvin [mailto:kmarvin@coppelltx.gov]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 8:33 AM
To: Marty Murphy
Cc: Richard Odell; Caleb Thornhill
Subject: RE: Excavation Qty for Coppell Road South
Yes. The engineer sent me a memo and drawing showing how they
calculated the 5,260 yards of channel excavation. When I looked at the
drawing it was apparent to me that the calculation was based on the
drawing they had produced showing the extended pipe that we did not
build. Upon further discussion with the engineer they are now in
agreement with the quantity that JRJ provided for our consideration.
We still have some things to discuss. As you know this item is a "Plans
Quantity" which means under the contract we intended to pay for only
that quantity listed in the bid tab. We do this so we don't have to
keep track of every yard of material. Of course no one expects the
quantity to be off by 100%.
We want to be fair to JRJ, but we will need to negotiate this as a
change order rather than over running the contract quantity. Please
provide a cost for this work for our consideration.
Keith
Keith Marvin, P.E.
Project Engineer
(972) 304-3681
>>> "Marty Murphy" <Martym@JRJPaving.com> 2/12/2010 8:13 AM >>>
any word yet on these quantities?
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Marvin [mailto:kmarvin@ci.coppell.tx.us]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:05 PM
To: Marty Murphy
Cc: Richard Odell; Caleb Thornhill
Subject: RE: Excavation Qty for Coppell Road South
Once we agree on a quantity, we are still going to have to discuss how
to handle the "Plans Quantity" issue.
Keith
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Keith Marvin, P.E.
Project Engineer
(972) 304-3681
>>> "Marty Murphy" <Martym@JRJPaving.com> 1/27/2010 12:34 PM >>>
I appreciate it, I thought the 5260 cy was what they had initially
calculated at bid time.
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Marvin [mailto:KMARVIN@ci.coppell.tx.us]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:27 PM
To: James Scott; Marty Murphy
Cc: Richard Odell; bct@freese.com
Subject: Re: Excavation Qty for Coppell Road South
Marty,
I spoke with the engineer earlier. He advises me that there was a bust
in the excavation quantity. They calculate the channel excavation at
5,260 cubic yards.
They are reviewing these calculations and will send me a memo with their
findings.
Keith
-----Original Message-----
From: "Marty Murphy" <Martym@JRJPaving.com>
To: Keith Marvin <KMARVIN@ci.coppell.tx.us>
Cc: Richard Odell <RODELL@ci.coppell.tx.us>
Cc: Caleb Thornhill <bct@freese.com>
To: James Scott <Jamess@JRJPaving.com>
Sent: 1/27/2010 12:01:02 PM
Subject: RE: Excavation Qty for Coppell Road South
Keith,
We use Agtek to do our excavation takeoffs, it uses multiple cross
sections to calculate the quantities.
We would like to see what the engineers quantities were on both the
street and channel separately. As you can see, the channel itself is
more than the bid quantity which is what caught our attention when
tracking our completed quantities in house.
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Marvin [mailto:kmarvin@ci.coppell.tx.us]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:49 AM
To: James Scott
Cc: Richard Odell; Caleb Thornhill; Marty Murphy
Subject: RE: Excavation Qty for Coppell Road South
James,
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I'm not sure I follow the method used to calculate this quantity. I
have forwarded it to the engineer for review.
In the event we agree that the quantity in the plans is significantly
less than the actual quantity, how does JRJ propose to reconcile the
situation? This excavation quantity is a "Plans Quantity" item, and as
such we can not simply over run it.
Keith Marvin, P.E.
Project Engineer
(972) 304-3681
>>> "James Scott" <Jamess@JRJPaving.com> 1/27/2010 9:20 AM >>>
Sorry about that, here it is
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Marvin [mailto:KMARVIN@ci.coppell.tx.us]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:21 AM
To: James Scott
Subject: Re: Excavation Qty for Coppell Road South
James,
There was no attachment.
Keith
-----Original Message-----
From: "James Scott" <Jamess@JRJPaving.com>
To: Keith Marvin <KMARVIN@ci.coppell.tx.us>
Sent: 1/27/2010 8:37:49 AM
Subject: Excavation Qty for Coppell Road South
Keith,
We noticed that the qty of excavation was more then what was in the bid.
I have attached a takeoff on just the channel. The qty of excavation is
more than the bid qty. Again this is just the channel, when you add in
the qty of excavation for the roadway then the qty is even more off.
James Scott
JRJ Paving
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