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(1/26/2012) Ken Griffin - RE: Cypress Waters MeetingPage 1
From:
John Rutledge <JLR@freese.com>
To:
Ken Griffin <KGRIFFIN@coppelltx.gov>
CC:
Steve Watters <spw@freese.com>, Karl Hoffman <KWH@freese.com>
Date:
1/10/2012 5:21 PM
Subject:
RE: Cypress Waters Meeting
Ken,
I talked with the Kimley Horn folks. The main points:
- they are driven by the goal of beginning construction of Phase II by Nov. 2013, so they will need to need
to start construction on their lakeside improvements early in 2013, as shown on the schedule attached to
the previous email. They show the spillway construction going on at a similar time, from Feb to Nov of
2013. This implies that we would get the lake low enough to do their work simultaneously.
- I said that their timeframe is fine on durations, but starting dates depend on the Corps and
authorizations from the City. It would take a reasonably positive reaction from the Corps to be able to start
spillway construction in Jan/Feb 2013.
- I said we would accelerate our site visit and discussion with the Corps and suggested that they not
attend our meeting with the Corps in hopes of keeping their permitting work separate. I personally think
the Corps is likely to see this as one project, but we can go in asking for two separate permit processes. If
we're lucky on the view of the current ordinary high water mark, then that would help a lot in that regard.
- I agreed we would coordinate on the Corps discussions. Neither of us wants to say or submit something
that sets the other back.
I missed both Steve and Karl today. I'll be back with you when I get a sense for their schedule. We just
need a contact person to physically access the property.
Thanks
JLR
John L. Rutledge, P.E.
Freese and Nichols, Inc.
4055 International Plaza St 200
Fort Worth, TX 76109
817-735-7284
jlr@freese.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Griffin [mailto:KGRIFFIN@coppelltx.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:07 PM
To: John Rutledge
Subject: Re: Cypress Waters Meeting
Luminant has signed them. Our attorney has the executed copies that were sent back to him signed by
Luminant.
Ken G
>>> John Rutledge <JLR@freese.com> 1/10/2012 2:13:03 PM >>>
Just for clarification, does that mean you'll get approval from Council to execute them and then send them
to Luminant to sign? Or has Luminant already done that part?
Thanks
JLR
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John L. Rutledge, P.E.
Freese and Nichols, Inc.
4055 International Plaza St 200
Fort Worth, TX 76109
817-735-7284
jlr@freese.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Griffin [mailto:KGRIFFIN@coppelltx.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 2:13 PM
To: John Rutledge
Subject: Re: Cypress Waters Meeting
I'm supposed to get the signed contracts at the council meeting tonight.
Ken Griffin
>>> John Rutledge <JLR@freese.com> 1/10/2012 1:58:16 PM >>>
You're free to call in as you wish, if available. I'll call in either way and let you know what happens, but I
have nothing to really add to their information. It ought to be a helpful update for us. Have you heard
anything form Luminant since we sent in those signed contracts?
Thanks
JLR
John L. Rutledge, P.E.
Freese and Nichols, Inc.
4055 International Plaza St 200
Fort Worth, TX 76109
817-735-7284
jlr@freese.com
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From: ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com [mailto:ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:44 PM
To: John Rutledge
Cc: brad.moss@kimley-horn.com; Steve.Galloway@kimley-horn.com; larry.clendenen@kimley-horn.com
Subject: RE: Cypress Waters Meeting
John:
I agree. A conference call today might be the best approach. I have set up a conference call number -
1-866-726-6516, code 251 535 6652 for us to use. We'll be standing by at 4:00 pm.
Attached are some exhibits that we can use to talk from. The first shows the different configurations of
the lake - (1) where the edge of water will be at elevation 490, (2) the current deed line of the lake as
defined by the Coppell - Billingsley agreement, and (3) a generally preferred lake edge configuration. On
the second exhibit, we have taken a "stab" at a preliminary schedule for our work to define the lake edge
and your work to modify the spillway. The third item on the schedule is a Phase II of Cypress Waters
development that has a goal of starting construction in early November 2013. We have also shown
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schedule items we need to address with regard to an irrigation plan that would use raw water to irrigate all
of the Cypress Waters project.
Roy
Roy L. Wilshire, P.E., LEED AP
Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc.(F-928)
12700 Park Central Drive
Suite 1800
Dallas, Texas 75251
972-770-1300
972-239-3820 (fax)
214-914-1193 (cell)
From: John Rutledge
[mailto:JLR@freese.com]<mailto:[mailto:JLR@freese.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:20 AM
To: Wilshire, Roy
Subject: RE: Cypress Waters Meeting
4:00 is fine with me. Though you're certainly welcome here, a conference call would seem to be a better
use of folks' time.
Thanks
JLR
John L. Rutledge, P.E.
Freese and Nichols, Inc.
4055 International Plaza St 200
Fort Worth, TX 76109
817-735-7284
jlr@freese.com<mailto:jlr@freese.com>
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From: ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com<mailto:ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com>
[mailto:ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com]<mailto:[mailto:ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com]>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:53 AM
To: John Rutledge
Subject: RE: Cypress Waters Meeting
John:
Would late in the afternoon tomorrow work for you - say at 4:00 pm - your office? Our group would just
be Steve Galloway, Brad Moss and me.
Roy
From: John Rutledge
[mailto:JLR@freese.com]<mailto:[mailto:JLR@freese.com]>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 5:29 PM
To: Wilshire, Roy
Cc: kgriffin@coppelltx.gov<mailto:kgriffin@coppelltx.gov>; Moss, Brad;
BWalker@Billingsleyco.com<mailto:BWalker@Billingsleyco.com>
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Subject: RE: Cypress Waters Meeting
Next Tuesday would be a good time for me, essentially any time during the day. We're still on hold waiting
for Luminant's approval to access the site for our review of permitting issues.
Thanks
JLR
John L. Rutledge, P.E.
Freese and Nichols, Inc.
4055 International Plaza St 200
Fort Worth, TX 76109
817-735-7284
jlr@freese.com<mailto:jlr@freese.com>
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From: ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com<mailto:ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com>
[mailto:ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com]<mailto:[mailto:ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:45 AM
To: John Rutledge
Cc: kgriffin@coppelltx.gov<mailto:kgriffin@coppelltx.gov>;
brad.moss@kimley-horn.com<mailto:brad.moss@kimley-horn.com>;
BWalker@Billingsleyco.com<mailto:BWalker@Billingsleyco.com>
Subject: RE: Cypress Waters Meeting
John:
Thanks for your response. With Phase I of Cypress Waters now under construction, we are beginning to
plan for the next phase of the development. Billingsley's business model is built around the delivery of
residential projects on a two year cycle. Lucy's goal is to have Phase II under construction in November
2013 - on property that is now within the boundary of the existing lake. Accomplishing that goal depends
on gaining all the required regulatory approvals, performing the necessary spillway and lake edge
modifications, and permanently lowering the water surface of the revised lake.
I know that you have made progress on developing the plan for revising the spillway. From our side, we
need to develop and process a plan to create the new lake edge, which in some areas will require
excavation, and in other cases filling areas that would still be inundated at the new 490 surface elevation.
We know there will need to be FEMA, TCEQ, City of Dallas, and COE permits and approvals. To really
get that process moving, we would like to meet with the Corps early next week, but want to make sure we
have a coordinated approach in dealing with each of these agencies.
We would like to have a quick conference call with you as soon as possible, followed by a meeting with
the Corps early next week, just to make sure we are properly coordinated and not interfere with your
discussions with the Corps. We are also trying to put together an overall schedule for both of our efforts
to achieve the above Phase II development.
Please let me know a convenient time today when we might call. Thanks!
Roy
Roy L. Wilshire, P.E., LEED AP
Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc.(F-928)
12700 Park Central Drive
Suite 1800
Dallas, Texas 75251
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972-770-1300
972-239-3820 (fax)
214-914-1193 (cell)
From: John Rutledge
[mailto:JLR@freese.com]<mailto:[mailto:JLR@freese.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 8:22 AM
To: Wilshire, Roy
Cc: Ken Griffin (kgriffin@coppelltx.gov<mailto:kgriffin@coppelltx.gov>)
Subject: RE: Cypress Waters Meeting
I'm back in town and apologize for the slow response. I'd be glad to get an update on your status, but am
not available this week. If you would prefer to simply email your status or needs from us, that's fine with
me, if that makes it easier for you. We have been trying to make progress on the permitting issues
associated with the lowering of the lake, but have had to work through a very long process with Luminant
to get access. Hopefully, that may finally be coming to a close and we can resume our efforts.
Thanks
JLR
John L. Rutledge, P.E.
Freese and Nichols, Inc.
4055 International Plaza St 200
Fort Worth, TX 76109
817-735-7284
jlr@freese.com<mailto:jlr@freese.com>
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From: ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com<mailto:ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com>
[mailto:ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com]<mailto:[mailto:ROY.WILSHIRE@kimley-horn.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 11:12 AM
To: John Rutledge
Subject: Cypress Waters Meeting
John:
Would you have a time next week for a Cypress Waters coordination meeting? We can come to your
office.
Roy
Roy L. Wilshire, P.E., LEED AP
Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc.(F-928)
12700 Park Central Drive
Suite 1800
Dallas, Texas 75251
972-770-1300
972-239-3820 (fax)
214-914-1193 (cell)
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