Creekview Add PD-CS 881222 . . COPPELL PUBLIC ~ORKS - ' ~
TO Steve Goram, Director of Public Work ~
RE: ~'~V~/steve,~ Cre~k ~e~on 12~2~8,1Oidattended a meetingF o plain of Lot Development in
Floodplain Reclamation Area. Please find the attached attendence
sheet for representatives attending this meeting. Topic of
discussion was the construction of home in said area prior to
FEMA Map Revision.
I have contacted FEMA and they will forward me a step-by-step
outline of the FEMA Submission requirement of how a project moves
through it, which I will forward to you upon my receipt of it.
In brief, after the Engineer of Record submits his data and plans
to the City to review, the City then forwards it to FEMA. FEMA
reviews the submissions and issues a letter of belief or condition
letter of Map Amendment, which allows development of said area,
but the owners are still held responsible. The next and final
step is FEMA's issuance of Map Revision. This takes property
out of floodplain and flood insures would not be required.
The norm is a Developer would do all floodplain reclamations
at one time. That is not what will happen at Creekview. They
will be doing it in phases. The creek lot will be in the first
phase. The problem is that the home will be ready for occupancy
prior to FEMA Map Revision. This meands new homeowners will
have to carry flood insurance (refundable) until revision. The
responsible party in control is the Floodplain Administration
& Building Inspections, and Engineers of Record.
It is the consensus of staff member present that piece-mealing
a floodplain reclamation is not a good idea and that we will
revise subdivision ordiance to require that floodplain reclamation
be done at one time. That the Engineer of Record will submit
to Floodplain Administrator and Building Official a certified
lot plat verifying that fill did not encroach on Floodplain and
lot is at proper elevation. Public Works Inspector would not
have a part of this seeing that responsible for items constructed
within the City right-of-way and easements to be dedicated to
the City and those lots are private property and would cooperate
in aiding the Floodplain Administration & Building Inspector
in the future in field observations of placement of fill done
during the construction of streets and utilities.
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December 20, 1988
TO Steve Goram, Director of Public Works~ '~~0 ~
FR:OM: Richard Diane, Park Foreman~
RE FIRM/FIe Update Meeting 12/19/88
A draft response from Mr. Morrison of Kimle_y_..H~rn-a.~_d ~ohn Ka~r~u~er.-
.~ohrmG~n i .~sC. gto~n~h~oC~teYref~yS ~emi~raslt t~eeF~M~nr~r~, any floodplain
Attached is correspondence related to this preliminary study which
identifies areas where Coppell has reclaimed portions of floodplain
with a map revision necessary, areas where conditions exist that FEMA
has not approved the remedies or flagged them for velocity, storage
problem, and lastly, areas where city boundaries are affected with
joint jurisdict~ounding communities.
A mention of t~ Creekview~project and its acceptance by Public Works
raised questions~._.Ru~l~ Doyle. More specifically, the question
of why was this area accepted without the lot grading or floodplain/
reclamation work completed prior to homebuilding. This will now require/
each lot to be surveyed and certification made that no encroachment occ~ed
within the floodway and that the finished floo~ elevation is above ~he/
base flood elevation (BFE) some 2½ feet in order to delete flood insur~
ance requirements on a mortgage as addit~al yearly--~
A m~hedu~0 p.m.%, o,n_ W~edne.sday,.De.c~
a~' s_lt~' .uatio_n will. .be further c.la~,~f.ied an3
d~~ildin~ I~spections and ~~e
t be in attendance.
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submittal ? FEMA in late
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Mr. Jo~ ~rl~her, P.E.
Ginn Inc.
17103 Preston Rd.
Suite 1~
Dallas, Texas 75240
Re: ~it~' oi ~ppell Prelimanary FI~ ~ur~ce Study (FIS) Review Project
No. 9183.~
Dear Mr.~ Karlsruher:
We have attended several meetings with your office and the City of Coppell
in order to obtain a list of projects that should be included in the FIS
revision. This list is the most important aspect of the study review so we
have spent a significent effort attempting to define it. Since we have not
recieved a specific list we decided to present our best guess and let your
office and the city modify it as appropriate.
The following projects are included as part of the FEMA prelimanary FIS as
per the attached December 5, 1988 memo:
1. Lakes of Coppell by Nathan Maier dated April 4, 1985. This is a 400 Acre
development at McArthur and Sandy Lake Road.
2. Irving Flood Control District Modification at the Elm Fork of the
Trinity River and Grapevine Creek dated J,~uary 21, 1986.
3. Fill and channel modification of Cottonwood Creek downstream of Sandy
Lake Road dated May 23, 1986.
4. Parks of Coppell on Denton Creek at Dento~, Tap Road and Forest Road.
5. Corps of Engineers FIS update of the l~l,n Fork of the Trinity River and
the affected tributaries o£ Denton and Grap,;vine Creeks.
6. Dannenbaum revision downstream of Denton Tap Road dated Feburary 1985.
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In addition to the '.projects shown above the following projects should, be
included as existing condition:
1. Riverchase Proj%~. on
the
Elm
Mater.
Fork of the Trinity River by Nathan
2. Creekview Addition on South Grapevine Creek north of the railroad on the
east side of Denton Tap Road by Nathan Maier.
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The following proje'cts should be included as exi~'ing conditions, tf-IoWever,
they require additional actions before they could be included:
1. Moore Road Bridge project should be included. However, before inclusion
as existing condition the City must submit additional information
required by FEMA. This information has been supplied to the city.
2. Gateway Project on Grapevine Creek should be included. However, before
including this project as existing con, litton the city must provide a
statement that no development will be allowed in this area until a drop
structure is completed that addresses t[,e. velocity problem identified by
FEMA.
3. Magnolia Project west of Denton Tap Roa,[, north of Denton Creek should
be included. However, before being included as existing condition
Lichliter Jamison must provide as-built plans certified as matching the
FEMA approved conditional FIS revision.
We are not qualified to define the projec,~ that must be included in the
FEMA revision. Therefore this list is only a suggestion. As soon as we
recieve written confirmation of the approved list we will preceed to
develop the FEMA submittal. This must be a, complished this week in order to
meet the schedule confirmed at our earlier mcctings.
After we complete the FEMA revision revicw we will present our results at
one final meeting. This could be with your staff, or the city, or at
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a council meeting.
As we have progressed through this study we have noted that the results
will affect many developments occurin~ in the city. We want to clarify that
the scope of our work for this project does not include additional
meetings, reviews, or other coordination },eyond the final presentation of
our review study.
We will refer any and all questions in this regard to your office. Thank
you for your attention to this matter, and wc look forward to your response
to this communication.
If you need additional information, pleasc ,:all me.
Sincerely,
KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES, INC.
Ronald W. Morrison, P.E.
Senior Hydrologist
'..4TERNAL MEMORAi. ' UM
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
SUB3ECT:
Memo for Record
Eon Morrison ~
December $, 1988 RESPONSE DATE:
FILE:
Cr~nver~nti~n with Rod Collln.~ of Dewberry and Davis reszardine vrojects
affecting Coppell floodplain.
Project No. 9183.08
I discussed my involvement with the review of Coppell's Flood Insurance Study revision, and asked
for information about projects approved by FEMA that might affect the results. The following is
a list of projects that Mr. Collins provided:
Lakes of Coppell - April 4, 1985
Irving Flood Control district modification along Elm Fork and Grapevine Creek -
January 2I, 1986
Fill and channel modification along Cottonwood Creek downstream of Sandy Lake
Road - May 23, 1986
Parks of Coppell, Denton Creek at Denton Tap Road and Forest Road.
Elm Fork Trinity update by Corps of Engineers. This also affects Denton Creek and
Grapevine Creek.
Denton Creek downstream of Denton Tap Road - February 1985 by Dannenbaum
Engineers.
Creekside housing community in Danton County on Denton Creek.
In addition Rod Collins identified the following as potential changes when a final revision is
completed:
2.
3.
4.
Grapevine Creek, Creekview addition at Denton Tap Road by Nathan MaJer.
Denton Tap Road fill project (I8.4 acres) on Grapevine Creek. Nathan Maier.
Bridge replacement on Denton Tap Road.
Northport addition on Cottonwood Creek in Grapevine, Texas.