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Sandy Lk Cross L3-CS 890627 ARCHITECTS-ENGINEERS, INC. (;~4) 27 J~e 1989 .... City ~i~r P.O. ~478 C~~ T~s 75019 Re:~on ~i~ S~tion Si~ 1~ at ~dy ~e & ~ton T~ R~ds in C~ll, ~s. ~r Mr. ~yle: ~e ~nts for si~ ~nst~ction ~at ~re re~ntly ~tt~ ~ yo~ d~a~nt ~ o~ s~f sh~ ~th archi~tural ~d engineering ~rk. It is ~ professio~l ~inion ~th ~ a ~is~r~ ~chi~ct ~d a professio~l ~gineer ~at ~1 of ~e ~rk ~o~ on ~ise of ~ architect. H~ever, a ~rtion of ~e ~rk, such ~ grading ~d si~ utilities is also ~in ~e ~e of practi~ of a civil engineer. On ~11 projects ~at ~ ~t ~re ~iq~ e~ineering designs, it is ~t ~vio~ ~ ~ which ~scipline ~r~in t~s of ~rk ~1o~. In f~t, it is ~ ~ders~ing ~t even ~e ~s~tive ~s of ~istration for ~th e~ineers ~d ~chitects ~ree ~at ~eir ar~s of practi~ ~ ~erlap on ~ t~s of ~rk. It is on ~is ~sis ~at ~e professio~ls in o~ fire rode ~eir ~cision as ~ ~ich ~rtions of ~e ~rk ~uld ~ ~e~t~ ~der ~eir dir~t ~ision alo~ ~ ~e ~sulting ~nts ~at ~uld ~ ~1~. We fi~y ~lieve ~at ~e si~ plan is archi~ctural ~rk. I~ ~ch ~ ~e fire ~t ~d ~p, grading ~d utilities ~uld ~ eider archi~ctural or e~ineering ~rk on ~is ~ ~d size of project. We cho~ fi~ ~t, grading ~ utiliti~ ~rk ~der ~e direct ~rvision of a professio~l engineer. ~nse~ntly, ~is ~rk ~s ~ on ~ra~ ~awings, ~1~ ~ ~. ~hitects are train~ by ~th ~ucation ~d ~rien~ ~ ~ ~re ~ j~t cr~ ~ ~aw. ~y are rigor~sly ~ain~ ~d ~s~d ~ ~e ~th sites ~d ~ildings ~rk. ~t j~t ~s~etically ~d f~ctio~lly, but ~c~ically ~ ~11. ~is ~ns ~at ~gister~ archi~cts are ~tent do ~sign ~d ~l~lations for ~11 plying ~st~, ~11 st~ctures, s~le si~ drai~ge, ~d other ~nor "~gineering" inciden~l archi~ct~al project. ~is ~ ~rk is also ~ m~h wi~in ~e practi~ of e~ineering. U~ort~tely for architects, ~is is ~t ~11 ~derst~ ~d as a result, lo~1 building officials ~y ~re ~at ~r~in ~nts Page 2 Mr. Russell Doyle ]~o0on- Sara:ly I. ake~ton be sealed by a professional engineer that can justifiably be sealed by an architect. Of course, the professional ~Drk shown by the documents must be that of the architect or under his/her direct supervision. The same holds true for the work sealed by engineers. If you or any of your colleagues would like to discuss this further, I will be glad to come to your offices to share my point of view and listen to your concerns. I have enclosed a recent article frcm Engineering News Record that may interest you. Thank you for allowing me to submit my opinion. Respectfully, Randy Karl Hagens, P.E., R.A., M.S.E. (civil) Director of Structural Engineering [,_~ANI:)¥ KARL HAGENS ;. · - 'C, -.-:F:.-., ~"~: -",,,~ ......... - ]~:~closure cc:. James ~. Hamill, A.'[.~. .; Walzer, chairman of Western Illinois . ~.' -.. :- L'niversity's economics department. ~ NEWS IN BF{IEF One can conclude "that the tradi- "' tional sources of revenue are inade- - .... : ' .-- .. ~ quate to meet the urgent need for re- ': pair and replacement of county roads .· and .bridges," says the associati~)n's ex- ecuuve director, John Thomas. '" .......... -.' ........ ~'?.::':~.~2~"~-' :",-~'~ ~' '~': ...... Capital spen~n,g accounted for a ' -" ' ' "' :' ' ~'' ''~ ~', 'iF.-:' ~.~-:~.~::~ .... ~' ,:...-...- · -..- .~. - . ' · · ' ' ,l~,l~,,r~$® I~¥ ir~to 2 I:ull~r--Tobi-_ lng built On the city'S economicallv-de- ~ third of the $11. t billion that counties,., shima Corp., Tokyo, has acquired 48% pressed east side an~ will replace Ch%'s- towns and townships spent on high- of Fuller Group Inc.; the parent compa: ler's .bldest plant, at Jefferson Avenue ~ ways in 1987. From 1977 to 1986, in- ny of George A:. Fuller Co.,.New York (ENR 2/2 p. 27). The architect for the ..- flaiion-adjusted highway aid per mile . City. A formal-agreement on the project is ,Mbert Kahn Associates, De- .; from local property taxes rose 14%. "friendly partidpation" -was ..signed in troit. The construction manager is Bar- ~ But federal and state assistance de- Tokyo June .6 by Tobishim3, President ton-Malow Co., Detroit. ~-'' clined. Those trends mean that coun- Akira Tobishima and Wilfred G. Mango .~-~: ties must look elsewhere for financial Jr., president of the Fuller Group. The Arg~nti~®~,~ rail--To unify and de- ~ help, possibly to more local fuel taxes agreement calls for coope~fion in real velop Patagonia, a largely unpopulated and license fees, the study says. estate ventures, marketing, financing, area of southern .4a-gentina, local lead- .,.~L .' A recent report bv th~ A~riculture technology and human resources. In ad- ers plan to build a 1.000-mile. railroad ~.-: Dept.'s Office of Tr'dnsportauon, writ- dition, the two companies will work across the region. The short existing . ten bv Walzer and David Chicoine, joindy on 'Fuller's penetration of the lines serve only a coal mine and isolated :.' professor of agricultural economics at Japanese and Asian markets. Fuller, es- 'Atlantic ports, while the new railway ':'.~...'the University of Illinois-Urbana. tablished in 1882, recorded 1988 bill- would link cities in Rio Negro province, ~,_;.~.~ a~ees that the condition of county ings of $544.9 million~ It is ranked 44th Chubut province and Santa Cruz prov- ~"~'. roads "is cause for concern." It notes on ENR's list of The Top 400 Contrac- ince. Local leaders are sec'king support ~!.- ::.~: that county bridges have been in ser- tors. The firm was active in Japan in the for the two-year project from President- ~: vice an average of 40 vears. "beyond early 20th Century... Tobishima is one of elect Carlos Menem, who will take pow- )S ,.~.~_2~ the useful life of many 'structures]" .~ Japan's 20 largest contractors. . er on June 30. The cost, though un- .-' : .... known, would be financed through ~ Trans-P~,cifi© partn®rship.--A 'gener- provindal and federal funds, ~S. ~ al partnership of one Asnerican and two _ i~$$1~1~1~'10115 Japanese companies is planning a $500- Briel~l® h®ld ,,p-The $400-million million waterfront resort in West Sacra- contract to build a bridge crossing Den- ,Architects! ellgineers . mento, Calif. It will include a 600-vessel mark's Great Belt· will not be signed · to agree on licensing -·.'yacht harbor, 'an. 18-hol~ '~0lf '~:ourse u'ntil the 'end 'of June because of dis- '. and 1,660 housing units-on a '32,000- putes over the choice of a construction ... acre site on the Sacramento River; to be group and design. Great Belt Link Ltd. -~' followed by a 500-room hotel, an office (GBL), the Danish state-owned project "~: ~ n order to avoid further conflict over building and a shopping mall. Comple- company, was scheduled to award the ~_~ · job responsibilities, the American In- tion is scheduled for 1995. The devel- contract to European Storebaelt Group .~..~. stitute of Architects and the National ..opment partnership, called Lighthouse (ESG) on June 16. But: Bouygues, Society of Professional Engineers plan .Marina .and Riverb~nd Development France's largest contractor and part of to forge a joint policy to clarify in- Corp., consists of Hazama-Gumi Ltd.' an unsuccessful consortium, accused stances where practitioners could per- and Pacific Consultants International of ESG of violating European Community  : form each other's roles. Japan, and Los Angeles-based Light- public procurement practices. (ENR 6/ ~ Registration laws in most states al- house Marina Corp. ' ' 15 p. 23). Now, two Danish political :4.~ ready allow for crossover practice be- . parties whose votes are crucial to the tween the two professions, but turf Trailer acquisition--Fruehauf Corp. project want to consider building a ~.~. battles sometimes crop up, for in- is negotiating the sale of its trailer man- composite steel and concrete bridge · :.- stance in Minnesota. New Jersev and ufacturing division to construction rather than the concrete version that the :i'~ Illinois (ENR 6/4/87 p. 13). "Some ar- equipment maker Terex Corp., Green vdnning group and the project company chitects sa,,' that only an architect can Bay, Wis. Detroit-based Fruehau£s ma- agreed on. This dispute could delay the serve [as lead desirer]," says Arthur jor market is over-the-road enclosed project several months as well as raise Schwartz, general counsel for NSPE. trailers, but it also produces flatbeds the cost.. "But that doesn't mean a professional and lowbovs used to haul materials and .- engineer in all cases is not capable." heavv equipment. . Last year equipment -~'~rk®l/'a h~alth ear~-The World AIA agrees that architects and engi- 'mal~(' Northwest 'Engineerir/g :Co~'' Bank has"approved'a $75-million loan neers are not interchangeable, but "in me~Cged into Terex, which had been a to improve health care facilities in Tur- some areas both professions are subsidiary but then became the parent kev. The loan is to be' used toward esual," says Nancv Somerville, director corporauon (ENR 5/12/88 p. 30). building '60 health centers, 4 regional o~ state and local governmental affairs i':~: ~ ~-, i.'. ~..: ....."::. '&~.- - .: .' .?'~??' .~.':-:~:. : hospitals, 3 public health laboratories, 2 i for the AIA. 'Ne~b- terrain'" for' Chi, ysler,;.chry,~]~i~ ·maintenance facilities for mobile health · ~ Although the policy to be finished Corp.,' betting on a continued hot mar- service vehicles and other facilities. To in July 1990. will not be legally bind- ket for. sports-utility vehicles in the help disburse the loan, Price Water- lng, S~:hwart~ savs he thinks the' guide- :1990s, has just broken'ground in De- house has been awarded a $750,000 lin~s will help. "~Fhe tone is set on the troit "for' a $1-biiliof¥~:'autO"'hs~e/nbly '~:o'fitr:ai:t from the state planning 0rgani- i:ational level and the message can plant. The 1.5-million-~q-ft plant is be- zation to prepare a master plan. ;tow from the top down," he says. ~ ' £tVR/duno 22, 1989 27