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Kimley-Horn
and Associates, Inc.
June 3, 2004
Mr. Kenneth M. Griffin, P.E.
Director of Engineering and Public Works
City of Coppell
255 Parkway Boulevard
Coppell, TX 75019
Re:
Review of CLOMR Request on Old Denton Creek
St. Andrews Estates
City of Coppell~ Texas
KHA No. 063124006
Dear Ken:
We have completed our review of the referenced Conditional Letter of Map
Revision (CLOMR) request for the proposed subdivision. The following
comments are based on the requirements outlined in the City of Coppell Drainage
Manual and Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) criteria.
Comments are in no particular order and should be addressed by number. KHA
recommends that:
This report appears to be a combination of two submittals to FEMA. The
first submittal is a Letter of Map Revision (LOMR), the purpose of which
would be to correct a mapping error on the effective FIRM. The second
submittal is a Conditional Letter of Map Revision based on Fill (CLOMR-
F). The CLOMR-F submitlal would be based on the proposed filling of the
finger of the floodplain that extends into the subject tract. These submittals
should be separated and delivered to FEMA as two requests. LOMR and
CLOMR-F requests are reviewed by different groups at PBS&I. Please be
advised that revisions requested in a CLOMR-F submittal cannot result in
alteration of the floodway. Therefore, the LOMR submittal will have to be
accepted by FEMA prior to the CLOMR-F.
The floodplain elevation tables located in Appendix G show an increase in
the 100-year floodplain elevation fi'om existing to proposed conditions at
cross sections 24700, 23800, and 23700. The location of the proposed fill
appears to be in a possible ineffective flow area. If the proposed fill will
affect the regulatory 100-year floodplain elevation, then a CLOMR should
be performed, not a CLOMR -F. Revise the modeling to avoid the revision
to the floodplain elevation, or revise the submittal to meet the requirements
for a CLOMR.
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and Associates, Inc.
Mr. K~nm~h M. Griffin, P.E., J~u~ 3,2004, Pmge 2
The Property Information Form states that the CLOMR-F request is for a
single lot. The final plat included in the submittal shows that the floodplain
reclamation occurs over six lots. If this plat has been filed, then the forms
should be revised to state that the request is for multiple lots. If the plat has
not been filed, then the current plat should he included in the report.
The Property Information Form states that the entire legally recorded
properly is to he removed from the floodplain. The final plat appears to
show that portions of Lots 16 and 17 will remain in the floodplain. The
May 14, 2004 letter to Kaith Marvin included a metes and bounds for the
area remaining in the floodplain. However, the CLOMR-F instructions
require a metes and bounds description of the area to be removed from the
floodplain. This metes and bounds description should be included with the
CLOMR-F submittal.
Thc Elevation Form states that the elevation datum for the survey is NAD
82. NAD 82 is a horizontal datum. Please revise the form to state the
vertical datum for thc survey. The vc~ical datum used for the FEMA
modcling in Dallas County is NG%rD 29. If the datum used in this
CLOMR-F is different, please state the conversion factor.
The Riverine Hydrology & Hydraulics Form states that all of thc effective,
pre-project, and post-project models can be found in StAndrews.pt~, which
is included on the attached floppy disk. When this model is loaded, a
message appears stating that many files are missing. The plan files are not
named, and it is difficult to tell which is the existing model and which is the
proposed model. Finally, there arc only two plan files on the disk.
Therefore, there cannot be effective, existing, and proposed conditions
models. Include and label digital copies of the effective, existing, and
proposed models for Denton Creek. Also include a hard copy of the
effective model with thc report.
A CLOMR-F submittal will not require hydraulic modeling to be submitted
to FEMA, while the LOMR submittal will. However, since the purpose of
the LOMR is only to revise the effective floodway delineation to reflect the
intent of the 1997 LOMR, only an effcctive model will he required to be
submitted to FEMA. No '~ost-project simulation" models, which model
proposed conditions that have not yet been constructed, should be included
in the LOMR. For the purposes of obtaining approval of this CLOMR-F
fi.om the City of Coppell, the revisions requested in comments 2 and 6 of
this letter must still be made and approved by the City.
Thc grading plan provided is not to scale. Please provide a grading plan
that is set to a measurable scale.
Revise the grading plan to illustrate thc grading around the proposed
beadwall and show how the floodplain will encroach on this grading.
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Prodde the proposed flow velocity exiting the headwall during the 100-year
event and detail the erosion control measures proposed at the headwall.
11.
The floodplain work map shows that the floodplain width at cross section
23500 is approximately 120-feet wide, while the proposed condition table in
Appendix G states that the floodplain width is over 4000-feet. This
discrepancy occurs with evexy cross section on the work map. Revise the
modeling and the workmap to have consistent floodplain widths.
12.
The floodplain workmap does not appear to reflect the topographic
information upon which the cross s~tions in the HEC-RAS modeling were
based. Wherever possible, include the topographic information from the
modeling on the floodplain wurkmap.
13.
The May 14, 2004 letter to Keith Marvin states that the cross section lines
should be considered schematic, and that the cross sections arc meant to be
perpendicular to the flow along Old Denton Creek. The floodplain
workmap should be revised to reflect this intent, and should not bc drawn
schematically.
The above comments should bc addressed, and thc CLOMR request should be
formally submitted for a second review.
If you have any questions or comments, please do not hesitate to call.
Sincerely,
K1MLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES, INC.
Project Manager
cc: I. David Evans, P.E. - Evans Engineering
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