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"Mark Wakeland" <MarkW@WakelandProperties.com>
<kmarvin@ci.coppell.tx.us>
10/12/2005 10:15:17 AM
FW: Fwd: Villas At Lake Vista - Street Signage
Hi Keith,
Please see note below from our rep at Brandon Industries. I looks like the "break away" requirement will
be the death of us doing the decorative signs. Please move forward with the ordering and installation of
the standard city signs.
Thank you for working with us in t~ying to get this done, but I guess it is not in the cards. I have copied
Gary Sieb just for his information in case he drives the property and notices that this is different from our
project in north Dallas. One of the elements of approval by the planning department for the rezoning of this
property into townhomes was that we were bringing upscale architecture and a "theme" to the table. One
of the amhitectural elements are the matching sign poles being painted black and fluted. I don't think it is
a huge deal not to have them, but every small detail shows up. It looks like Brandon Industries is several
months away from the final development of a break-away design, which is too late I'm afraid.
Take care and thanks again for all your help and patience in reviewing these signs.
Best regards,
Mark Wakeland
Wakeland Property Company
P: 469.916.5812
F: 972.931.5156
C: 972.740.9472
markw~wakelandproperties.com
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From: CJ - Brandon Industries [mailto:cjs@brandonindustries.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:32 AM
To: Mark Wakeland
Subject: RE: Fwd: Villas At Lake Vista - Street Signage
Mark,
Currently, our sign poles are designed to be buded in concrete. We are
working on an alternate mounting system that is being designed and
tested as "Break Away". This system would use a buried anchor post and
have our decorative post bolted to it. In the event that the signpost
would need to be repaired, a new pole could replace the damaged one. No
new concrete would need to be poured. We are still 5-7 months away from
final testing of the new system. Please keep us in mind for future
projects.
Best Regards,
CJ Sewick
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Brandon Industries, Inc.
Quality Streetscape Solutions
www.brandonindustries.com
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From: Mark Wakeland [mailto:MarkW@WakelandProperties.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:19 AM
To: cjs@brandonindustries.com
Cc: kmarvin@ci.coppell.tx, us
Subject: FW: Fwd: Villas At Lake Vista - Street Signage
Please see note below. Are you available at either of these times? I
can go at either time.
Best regards,
Mark Wakeland
Wakeland Property Company
P: 469.916.5812
F: 972.931.5156
C: 972.740.9472
markw@wakelandproperties.com
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From: Keith Marvin [mailto:kmarvin@ci.coppell.tx.us]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:16 AM
To: Mark Wakeland
Cc: Per Birdsall
Subject: RE: Fwd: Villas At Lake Vista - Street Signage
Mark,
As I indicated, we need to meet with your supplier to discuss the
details of the signs and their installation prior to approving you to
move forward. We are available on Thursday of this week at either 10:00
or 2:00. If that doesn't work, I'm sure we can fit something in next
week.
We will also need to work out the details of a maintenance agreement for
these signs prior to the final acceptance of the infrastructure.
Keith R. Marvin, P.E.
City of Coppell
(972) 304-7044
kmarvin@ci.coppell.tx.us
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>>> "Mark Wakeland" <MarkW@WakelandProperties.com> 10/11/05 8:36 AM >>>
Keith,
Thank you for the explanation. I will check to make sure these will do
that. Asssuming the signs are mounted this way, and assuming we meet
all the other criteria per the previous email, are we then deemed
approved by the City to go ahead and order and install these? If so, do
you have a list of all the signs ( traffic, street names, etc.) that
we need per city code and where we need to put them so I can give it to
the manufacturer? We try to minimize the amount of signs, if possible,
so whatever you can provide in terms of what we need that you guys will
be pleased with would be greatly appreciated.
We need to get it done ASAP as the subdivision is about complete and we
are hopefull to start foundations on 7 units by October 26th.
As always, thanks for your help.
Best regards,
Mark Wakeland
Wakeland Property Company
P: 469.916.5812
F: 972.931.5156
C: 972.740.9472
markw@wakelandproperties.com
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From: Keith Marvin [mailto:kmarvin@ci.coppell.tx.us]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:31 PM
To: Mark Wakeland
Subject: RE: Fwd: Villas At Lake Vista - Street Signage
Mark,
The term "break away" refers to how the base is connected to the ground.
Our typical installation is a post anchored into the ground with
concrete, and the sign post bolted to it. This allows the bolted
connection to break, so that the sign post can be replaced easily and
quickly without the need to drill a new hole and concrete a new post in
the ground.
Keith R. Marvin, P.E.
City of Coppell
(972) 304-7044
kmarvin@ci.coppell.tx.us
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>>> "Mark Wakeland" <MarkW@WakelandProperties.com> 10/10/05 10:45 AM >>>
Hi Keith,
All of below comments are fine and we will comply, except we are tpJing
to understand the term "break away". These posts are aluminum so, by
definition, they will fold up pretty easily if hit. I think the city's
poles are also aluminum. Won't our post be OK? Or, is there another
standard that we are not aware of?
Thanks for your help.
Best regards,
Mark Wakeland
Wakeland Property Company
P: 469.916.5812
F: 972.931.5156
C: 972.740.9472
markw@wakelandproperties.com
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From: Keith Marvin [mailto:kmarvin@ci.coppell.tx.us]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:48 AM
To: Mark Wakeland
Cc: Charlene LaMattina; Per Birdsall
Subject: Re: Fwd: Villas At Lake Vista - Street Signage
Mark,
Below are some points to consider relative to your street signage
proposal. I would suggest that we get together later in the week to
discuss this in more detail. I would ask our Street Operations Manager
to join us for the discussion, and if you could bring your
manufacturer/supplier they could probably hash out all the details.
Keith R. Marvin, P.E.
City of Coppell
(972) 304-7044
kmarvin@ci.coppell.tx.us
>>> Per Birdsal110/08/05 7:45 PM >>>
1. I would need to see the break-a-way details for the post. The post
itself is not a problem but the maintenance of the post must be clearly
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spelled out. Knock-downs are inevitable.
2. The STOP signs will need to be 30" with 3M DG material as is our
current standard. Silk screened signs will not be allowed.
3. The street name signs will need to be the material as stated above
with 6" letters as per the manual.
4. What about the rest of the signs? Speed limits on streets are 24"x
30", in alleys they are 18"x 24" etc.
There are probably additional things but it is Saturday night. I'll see
you Tuesday.
Per
Per Birdsall, Traffic Control / Streets Operations Manager
City of Coppell
816 S. Coppell Rd.
P.O. Box 9478
Coppell, Texas 75019
972-462-5150
972-462-5199
pbirdsall@ci.coppell.tx.us
>>> Keith Marvin 10/07/05 3:56 PM >>>
FYI... Let's talk about this on Tuesday.
Keith
Keith R. Marvin, P.E.
City of Coppell
(972) 304-7044
kmarvin@ci.coppell.tx, us
>>> "Mark Wakeland" <MarkW@WakelandProperties.com> 10/07/05 10:07 AM >>>
Keith,
Attached please find some representative photos of what we would like to
do with the street signs/traffic signs in the Villas development (I took
these photos two days ago). These are currrently being used in our
other development in North Dallas (Windsor Place), and are identical to
what we would propose in the Villas. The manufacturer is Brandon
Industries (www.brandonindustries.com) in McKinney. Brandon is also
preparing for me, for your review, a spec sheet showing the dimensions,
etc.
I am checking with Brandon, but I don't believe that the city will need
to even generate the green name plates...I think Brandon will do a
turn-key deal for us, but I am checking and will let you know.
We will pay for these and install them at our cost. The HOA will
maintain them, so the city will effectively have no responsibility in
either the installation or maintenance.
As soon as I recieve the specs, I will email them to you.
If you approve, please let me know. We would also respectfully request
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a refund of the monies I delivered last week so that we can apply those
dollars to the pumhase of these signs.
Thank you in advance for taking a look at these and for being open to
the concept of us providing them. It seems like a minor thing, but the
little details are an important part of the overall theme and look of
the development.
Best Regards,
Mark
cell: 972-740-9472
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FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
September 21 2005
Charlene LaMattina Engineering
Larry Morton Traffic Control
Traffic Control Division Sign Fee Villias at Lake Vista
The following fee should be assessed and collected on the above referenced project.100% due prior
to final acceptance of project.
Street Sians Fee
The following assessment is being made in accordance with the City of Coppell Subdivision
Ordinance Appendix A Chapter VIII A. The following costs of those sign materials required are
based on current pricing which is reviewed on a regular basis.
SIGN UNIT PRICE QUANTITY
No Parking $68.91 0
Speed Limit $70.99 I_.QO
Street Names $72.51 6
Yield- w/names $136.67 0
Stop - w/names $123.05 4
Warning Sign $80.83 0
Keep Right(median) $70.99 2
Object Markers(L&R) $45.97 _0
SIGN NO Outlet $80.83 1_
SIGN 0
OTHER
LABOR $15.00 2~3
5% Adminstrative Cost $0.05 $2,204.97
EXTENDED PRICE
$0.00
$709.90
$435.06
$o.oo
$492.20
$o.oo
$141.98
$o.oo
$80.83
$o.o_q
$345.00
$110.25
* cost breakdowns may be obtained by written request
TOTAL
$2,315.22
Sign Fee Revised 412/04