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8/13/02 Workshop of CouncilAugust 13, 2002 Workshop regarding Old Coppell Master Plan (about 25 min.) Witt: Three items regarding Old Coppell 1. Land use 2. Road design 3. Vacant property Land Use Witt: Comprehensive Plan of 1996 shows subject property as commercial and zoning is commercial. (No, Plan shows it as HO-C but Appendix example shows mixed used including residential) Old Coppell Plan shows use as residential Witt: We need direction -people will be closer to the flight path, but the consultant felt residential is important to the success of Old Town. Stover: Any other conflicts with the plan? We went through rezoning two years ago and are there any conflicts left with this plan? None Witt: This is a quandary for us. Mayor: Is a bed and breakfast allowed? This land is within the noise corridor (not true, it is 1900 feet from the 65Ldn contour) Herring: Question about residential development being needed for success of Old Town. Mayor: Jim, do you think one developer will do both residential and commercial? Witt: No one we've talked to has indicated an interest in doing both, just residential. Tunnell: If residantial is allowed, it will be built upon. Witt and Herring: Discussion on West Village in Dallas, and a higher density residential. Mayor: What is the airport's position? Witt: They are opposed to any residential development. Mayor: Because it is in the noise cone. Witt: We need clear direction on what to tell people who want to develop property in Old Town. Witt: Residential property closer elsewhere than this track. Our consultant said residential development an important element in success of Old Town. Witt: Property too deep for all commercial (almost 500 feet deep). We do not want to encourage mini-warehouse adjacent to homes or other undesirable uses. Herring: No problem with this plan, we need diversity in residential development. On the other hand, I feel we need to honor the Master Plan. Questions about flood plain, other related items. Mayor: Changing to residential means possible overcrowding schools; my personal opinion is to leave it commercial; listen to D/FW people. We need consistency with West Chase. We know Coppell best! We should not go against our attorney's advice-- we should listen to them. Tunnell: Is mixed use allowed? Witt: How about residential above retail? Mayor: I'd be real concerned. Witt: We did advise consultant about controversy surrounding residential asked him consider it carefully. Clay: Jim, Gary, and I told the consultant to be careful with residential and the noise issue. Witt: Remember Noga told us to be consistent in land use planning. If the land use plan says one thing, and the Old Coppell Plan says another, that is not being consistent. We need clear direction. Brancheau: Residential within 100 feet of this area already. Mayor: Don't need more people, we could get more residential without the retail and we don't need more people. Witt: We could say staff, Gary, the Planning Commission all back the zoning map. Herring: Will Gary do anything you tell him? Witt: Gary will be told that the Council position is to back the zoning, even though the consultant says residential is needed. We could say we'll stick by our gans--it's a concept plan but zoning will not support it and we discourage you from making an application. Herring: If he has a problem have him talk to Marsha. Mayor: Let's move on to roads. Comments relative to staff recommendation Old Coppell Townhouses Sidewalks of brick Focal points such as gazebos On-street parking 700 out of 2000 respondents Concept Plan It's like a table of contents--it gives one the big picture You need to expand on the ideas presented in it Proposing residential Important to have some residential Helps market retail development, but perhaps more importantly, a more "lived in" feeling for the area Residential Shown in overall plan Ground floor residential also in plan Design Gabled roofs Wood frame construction Porches 1-21/2 story height narrow lots (50 foot max.) red brick sidewalks as a concept angled parking for commercial development street furniture not Victorian--probably 30's design of residential Meeting 20 people at Council meeting (40 plus at Commission) "residential areas being important" Joe Shirley Council Stover: impressed with study & conclusions--supports it; Old Town look; questioned economic numbers (290K) Tunnell: excited about Plan; city change setbacks, materials, etc. Peters: Compliments the process national register; concerns with SF because of airport flight and noise issue York: agrees with peers; happy to hear from merchants; what do Wilson's and Cosby's think? Mayor: Vt step to preserve parkland ;zoning changes, building code changes; commtmity effort; consensus--a concept plan; disappointed C of C did not appear; Econ. Dev. Comm. approves of it; "delighted with plan"